Sandy Grimalkin's Post; LETS HAVE HER BANISHED BECAUSE WE ARE "UNCOMFORTABLE" AROUND HER

God, why wouldn't she tell him that she wanted the friendship to be over and then just let it happen? She had no right to have him removed because she was "uncomfortable" around him, and her controlling husband had no right to that either. If there is such a right, then she needs to go, because now I am uncomfortable around her. Oh, but she didn't do anything to me, did she? That wouldn't seem to matter, because he didn't do anything to her either.

Patticake's post; ROSE, WHERE IS YOUR REMORSE?

Is he not a human being? How do you think he feels? Doesn't he suffer when betrayed? What have you gained by this that you couldn't have gained by asking for it?

Where is your conscience?

Where is your remorse?

Where is your confession?

Where is your penance?

Crybaby's Post; HE'S GOOD ENOUGH TO USE, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE SEEN

I made a report to the compliance email. If there was some objective and fair handling of the matter, there wouldn't be any need for reports to the compliance address or for this blog. I didn't want the company line and I got the company line all right, and I think that my report did not get read or the company doesn't take reports seriously when pleased with its own decision. Does somebody get some malicious glee knowing that he is twisting in the wind? Does Rose get some feeling of innocence and satisfaction by transferring all guilt to him with the approval and protection of the company? No one takes her allegations seriously, but we take his discipline damn seriously. Was this supposed to show what the company will do when given a flimsy excuse to make an example of a good guy? I hear he is probably the best scientist the company has and probably is or was one of the most devoted employees, and with no fair process somebody stuck him with a criminal record, exiled him, and keeps him out of sight but always expects him to be available to help with the same attitude as before. I call that unethical. He was one of us, and the company should have defended instead of punished. We know him, so we know that the woman did not need to be defended against him. The worst outcome of defending the man and rejecting her allegations would have been a nuisance reaction from her. Couldn't the company put up with that to save Bob from this? Right, confidential information. With that open relationship they had, there is not any confidential information that would justify his treatment by the company. The confidential part is that we aren't supposed to know that. We are supposed to think that he brought it on himself. Any real confidential information is only confidential to protect the ones who were cruel, incompentent, and cowardly. Incompetent is not unethical, but cruel and cowardly are unethical. Does ethical and fair and reasonable and logical even mean anything here? This report is going to be blogged.

Guadalupe Frisco's Post; THIS WAS A HOT CONVERSATION TOPIC AT THE CLIENT CHRISTMAS PARTY

I am glad to learn about this blog, because I don't trust the 1-800 number and when I tried to talk to somebody I was told that we don't talk about it. Rose burned somebody with no reason that should be acceptable to the company or HR. I don't know all the discipline but I know there was some. Bob was treated unfairly and she needs to be disciplined not him. He didn't do anything wrong. My reason for reporting this is to show support for him and to report her and to suggest that this dirty business get cleaned up and made right. That means something needs to be changed. Nobody needs to get fired unless it is her and probably not even that, but on the street it is pretty plain who is supported, and this had a lot of talk at the client christmas cocktail party from people you would not expect. I think everybody agrees with her right to complain but no one supports her complaint. It was not justified by the facts and nobody supports the decision. This all looks like the kind of violation of ethics that I should report to the compliance officer in good faith, but I hear that he ignores the reports.

Goody's Post; WHAT SHE DID WAS MALICIOUS MISCHIEF

I am real concerned and real angry over what happened to Robert from what Rose did. There are two things here. What she did and what the company did. I knew about their flirtation and it started in California a long time ago where she paid a lot of attention to him, and they were good friends from then on. I also know that they had an agreement to end their relationship between themselves if it had to be done, not involve HR or anyone else, and they did. Only a while after it was over she went and misrepresented that relationship as something that was harassment, but she was part of all of it. What she did was malicious mischief and the company responded with a cowardly act and she doesn't care. The real trouble maker is known, and she needs to be dealt with. Robert didn't do anything wrong, and as far as I know did everything right to allow a friendly ending. Please get the truth out and check into this again. Discipline needs to happen sometimes but it needs to be fair and fall on the right person. How can the company let her do this to a man by reidentifying a relationship after its over as something that it wasn't.

Crybaby's Post; MAYBE SHE SHOULD NOT BE FIRED FOR THIS, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED OWES APOLOGY TO BOB

I got the email message that suggested that I send this report which I would not do by telephone because of voice recognition or recording. This is about the shabby treatment given to Bob after Rose's bogus report to HR. That was wrong and was dirty pool by her and by hr and maybe by Graham. I knew what was going on, and she was proud of the attention that she got from him, and she was proud and all smiles about the flower that he gave her. If her perception and attitude changed, it shouldn't be his problem. I don't know how the decision was made, but it wasn't ethical and that's important to us that know what was going on. Whoever made the decision was not informed of what was going on except by what she said, and that was not completely true. The right people should be talked to, and that would be almost anybody. I heard a lot about ethics and then this event showed that the company really does not care about ethics except maybe at some business matters. The company cares about appearances, so this was a cover up and was supposed to shut up a woman who didn't have any problem with the man until something changed that made her want to do this, but everything had been resolved way before she reported. I do not know what to call it, unfair discipline or her workplace conduct, but this was not done right by everybody's standards. Rick and everybody else over reacted, and this was because of Rick's inexperience and because she is a woman and to keep up appearance. The wrong person got discipline. Maybe she should not be fired for this, but something needs to be done, and everybody involved owes apology to Bob. The global hr vice president is paid too much to make this kind of wrong decision. I suggest a meeting of all the people involved to get this fixed, if Bob even would do it now. Rose should be forced to do it or leave. I look forward to hearing an answer to this but not if its just the company line.